#881 Debate time part two – so how about New Zealand women?

Ladyhawke in hoody at the VNZMA /Stuff

Yesterday the New Zealand man’s lack of sartorial savoir was picked apart, so today let’s take a look at the ladies. I had a bit of a rant on George FM this morning about the shoddy effort put in by the Kiwis at the music awards. Specifically, all the ladies who went around in pants (oh, and gentleman, a mismatched black blazer and black jeans does not constitute a suit). An awards ceremony is supposed to be a dress up, formal event. But our top female vocalists weren’t phased by anything so light hearted as a dress code. Ladyhawke – jeans and a hoody. Brooke Fraser – black pants. Gin Wigmore – jeans. Anika Moa – jeans and no shoes. I mean come on! How hard is it to wear a dress? Or at least take a leaf out of our favourite ex prime minister Helen Clarke’s book and wear a damn pantsuit if you’re that way inclined.

So what’s going on? Do we lack a good enough selection of pretty dresses?

Does the New Zealand woman dress badly?

Girls – do you find it difficult to shop in New Zealand?

How does Glassons compare to international chainstores?

Can you buy good heels here?

Are jeans really suitable for going out?

Do you lack a selection of stylish women to look up to for style inspiration?

Why do you insist on wearing tights/leggings as pants? They’re not pants! Hide the gusset!

Answer below, dear readers.


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  1. says

    Oh come on now, that’s a bit silly. Why should the likes of Pip, Gin and Anika go against what is obviously their personal dress-code just so a woman’s mag or fashion website can have the cliched pleasure of asking “so WHO are you wearing?”.
    It was the music awards, not fashion week. The respective talents and achievements of these women should be the centre of attention – not some pretty frock.

  2. says

    I disagree Katie! There’s no doubt that the girls are talented, but why shouldn’t they make an effort and break out of the daywear? I feel the same way about the guys though, they should have all been wearing suits in my opinion.

    It’s a red carpet event!

  3. says

    Issac you are hilarious, these last couple of blogs are bringing a smile on my face ( and getting me slightly wound up too)

    Our culture is definitely way too relaxed when it comes to dressing up. There are so many great opportunities to look amazing and its not that hard!

    I remember coming back from a year of living in Europe and going to my brothers wedding and being absolutely shocked at the jeans and t-shirt (and jandals) effort.

    I must admit I do feel myself getting sucked in the vacuum of sameness occasionally. Its got to have something to do with that tall poppy thing. We all love to think we are original but we end up looking the same. After walking around last years fashion week, I vowed if I ever saw another black leather jacket, floral dress and docs set up I would scream….. there are so many other possibilities!

    And as for heels, NZ definietly lacks, although I now have the pleasure in wearing my own range of heels daily and Im totally loving it, even if it may be here in beachy Mt Maunganui :)

    Husband would not allow me to comment on mens – so I will keep my mouth shut:)

    Ok back to work.


  4. Georgie says

    Even worse than tights as pants, I once saw a heavily obese girl wearing stockings as pants with her underwear on full display on Queen st! If that isn’t enough to put you off your lunch I don’t know what is..

    Personally I’m interested in the latest trends and splash out on designer duds now and then but most of the time I find myself resorting back to t-shirt and jeans simply because of the relaxed, casual lifestyle here. I’d love to wear my gorgeous Juliette Hogan high-waisted skirt to Uni but it’s just too good, and simply why should I make the effort when nobody else is.

    At the end of the day spending twice as much on clothes as your average kiwi ‘chick’ isn’t going to get me further in life so why bother, as long as I’m comfortable, neat and reso-coordinated why does it matter whether I’m wearing Glassons, Dotti or Jay Jays and blend into the crowd?

    This is going to be an interesting debate I’m sure, keep up the great blog Isaac!

  5. Anonymous says

    Everyone should make an effort for such an event. They shouldn’t give up their style, but they should do something more than what they might wear on a Sunday mornign to the corner dairy. Ther eis no shame in a great pair of jeans, a killer top and heels rather than a dress if you really hate dresses. Perhaps they should have a dress code at the door – sorry Ladyhake and Anika – no entry.

  6. says

    I think alot of women tend to either dress down (jeans and hoodies you mentioned) or dress UP – have a look at all the sparkly, satin-y dresses and strappy dresses in auckland city on a saturday night.

    I think people need to realise there is happy medium, and that your can pull things from both end of the spectrum.

    Im all for people dressing like themselves, but you should push yourself a bit, it takes going outside of your comfort zone to find something new and exciting. It’s so easy to stick with the same old same old, or what the rest of the pack is doing..

    That said, events like awards ceremonies and more formal events should be treated with effort – as a mark of respect etc.

    shoe situation here is depressing – for shoes and flat. and with my terrible feet they are near impossible to purchase sight unseen on the internet.

  7. Anonymous says

    I think as a whole, us Kiwis are pretty shite at presenting ourselves, i know there is the availability debate… But you walk down any street in France, everyone has style, 70% dressed really well. Even the randy little 14year olds on vespas are tidy, presentable, proud… Thats just everyday atire…
    We are way worse when it comes to events, but than again if everyone went to the nines all the time it would be so boring…competitive and bullshit.

    We need shite looking clothes and bad taste, just like we need people who lick stamps for a living or who are lawers.

    If everything was the same or too predictable what would be the point…. Plus with availablity means some of that “brand or label” going so well would potentially make more of the big sellers meaning it becomes less unique..

    Who I am I anyway, just a dork on lunch break, ring bell, ring…

  8. says

    I very much agree with you Isaac, that is no way to dress for an awards ceremony. I understand that one should remain true to their individual style, but sometimes effort required.

    Glassons and Supre are the downfall of NZ fashion, but there is little choice. They are encouraging girls to display more and more flesh as ‘fashion’ and it is hideous (in most cases).

    I think it is totally possible to carve out a nice style between classic designer pieces and if on-trend is required, then go to the cheap chain stores.

    Jeans can be dressy, if teamed with the right top, good accessories and some hot heels, but it is all in context.

    In regards to style icons to look up to, Stuff really grated me a while back re. their ‘best dressed businesswomen’ article that I blogged about it http://opinionadded.blogspot.com/2009/08/first-in-best-dressed.html if this is the sort of thing that corporate NZ is working towards, we’re all screwed.

    Nice stuff Isaac.

  9. Jo says

    NZ, lovely and unassuming as it is, can be rather boring on the fashion-front and we’ve all been brought up to be unassuming, to fade into the background and for GOD SAKES, not to be a tall poppy!

    These ideas all coalesce into black, unimaginative outfits and a feeling that it’s a bad thing to “try” lest we be called a (rather unimaginatibely named) “try-hard”. The kiwi girl’s “going-out” uniform of sparkly top and jeans is dowdy at best, slutty at worst, though on my last night out I noticed that this had changed to sparkly top and leggings (and I completely agree with you Isaac, they are NOT trousers).

    Try a cocktail dress. At least once. Try wearing something interesting to work. Try accessories. Try new designers. Try dressing up (it actually does feel nice).

    I have to confess. I’m a “try hard”. When it comes to fashion, I try very hard. And nicely enough, when I do, I generally get admiring looks and comments from most other women and more than a few of them have commented that they wish they could wear coloured tights, or loud accessories or dress like a 1920’s boy for a day, etc.

    This all leads me back to my original point, that the whole unimaginative-NZ-fashion-thing seems to be people not wanting to stick out or look like you’re trying, despite the fact that the response can be fun, cute and comfortable all at the same time.

    Okay kids enough sermonising, but seriously, NZ women just need to TRY!

  10. Anonymous says

    Agreed on the not dressing up enough part! Even for things like uni/work. On any day on Queen St, there WILL be women with pant suits or dress up skirt/shirt combo with sneaker shoes. What’s up with that?

    Also, I def think that there’s a serious lack of affordable quality clothes here. Glassons has been better than usual recently in terms of design/trends, however the quality still sucks & they’re increasing their prices.

    The only stores that do actually sell nice clothes, are the ones that stock designer/overseas labels, but then again, they seem to cater for a very specific grunge style (eg Fabric, area 51 or superette)

  11. Kate says

    Totally agree with Emma’s point about the happy medium, too many Kiwi women seem unable to find it.

    I also lay a lot of blame on the big chain stores (Glassons, etc) and Farmers. For many New Zealanders, these are their only options for clothes, and they really fail at offering interesting, current and varied clothing. Often they seem to appeal to the low end only with garish colours and overexposed flesh.
    I hate the term, but geez could they try to be a bit ‘classy?’

    Many consumers miss out on fashion altogether, for example, my plus sized friends are faced with buying the sacks at Farmers or paying $300 for designer gear at Zebrano.

    Cheap high street stores overseas manage to offer their customers plenty of choice, surely ours can do half as well?

  12. gen says

    NZ is a far more fashionable place than it was when I was younger. I remember the height of fashion being a drab olive green loose linen shirt by World (of all designers!), 501s (the cool kids are probably wearing these again *shudder*), boat shoes (ditto), and a faded navy Country Road duffel bag.

    I think the average shopping experience here is fantastic and decent designers are far more accessible (I love being able to layby my winter coat in the height of summer). Glassons doesn’t support the same range of fads that overseas chain stores do, but they do some great quality stuff – I used to send home for half a dozen merino cardies every year when I was overseas.

    NZers aren’t as concerned with fashion as Italians. That said, we’re largely free of the vanity and peacockery that you see on the Continental. We are a low maintenance, low fuss sort of people and I like that about us, even if we are sometimes too polar fleece dependent.

  13. Anonymous says

    We are like our native bird for the most part – the Kiwi(which I adore): dowdy, dumpy and shy as opposed to the European peacock: colourful, svelte, proud. We don’t really have the attitude, money or figures to pull off high fashion looks(which are not readily available here anyway). The chain stores are simply horrible, the clothes fit terribly and are substandard fabrics. Street brands rule and and Nzers have never been one to stick out like a sore thumb. I thought the way most of the artist spoke at the music awards was worse than the way they were dressed! Appalling

  14. Anonymous says

    @ Anonymous 2.35pm

    “On any day on Queen St, there WILL be women with pant suits or dress up skirt/shirt combo with sneaker shoes. What’s up with that?”

    I’m going to guess it’s because they walk to work, and home again. They probably have a pair of heels or dress shoes in their bag, or sitting at work. It’s not a fashion statement, it’s a practical solution.

  15. says

    Its sad being a teenager in NZ. Currently still at school, I have gone from an all girls private school in central auckland, to a co-ed school in south auckland. The private school, while the girls had the money to be fashionable, chose to dress them selves in the ‘out of school uniform’ the dreaded kathmandu puffer jacket, jeans and velcro lacoste shoes. Each girl dresses the same, every where they go, parties, shopping trips to new market, WEDDINGS. Yes, I saw a girl at a wedding in the ‘uniform’.
    Some how their distorted view on fashion makes them all want to dress in unflattering jackets and jeans.

    And then we get to the co-ed school in south auckand. Here it is a whole new kettle of fish. You have the girls who only wear the clothes that Glassons offer them, then you have the girls who will show as much skin as possible, then you have the girls who wear polar fleece and running shoes to go shopping. Ask them what a boutique is, and they will stare at you with a blank look.

    Don’t get me wrong, at both schools there are fashionable girls, who know who Stella McCartney is and what looks were just on the runway in New York, but these girls are very rare.

    I just hope that when I get to uni, there will be more individuals, and I pray there are more fashionable people. But for now, I’ll just be the girl that wore a high waisted skirt to school and everyone asked why I was ‘high-riding’? 3 years later, high waisted skirts have trickled down to the chain stores, and they are all wearing them.

    Note: Even though we may not have the money/budgets of other countries, we are still able to dress fashionably. Its not about how much you have, but how and where you spend it.

  16. Anonymous says

    People talk of France and Italy as good examples of nations that dress really well. I can’t speak from experience at all, but someone who can, are you just talking about going to Milan or Paris and going ‘wow everyone looks cool’ or have you been to their rural sectors too and thought that their farmers dressed great too?

  17. says

    Also- it saddens me to find out that a red carpet event had our top music dogs in jeans. Seriously.. I know its comfy, but its an awards ceremony!

  18. says

    Pip Brown has AMAZING STYLE. I respect that she doesn’t feel the need to expose herself in a flashy dress, and conform to generic expectations of what a pop tart…i mean star should look like. What would have been better? For her to dismiss her own personal sense of style and hire some stylist just to validate her status as a pop icon, and impress the likes of…you.
    This isn’t fashion week – and the NZ awards are about music. Or at least they attempt to be.

  19. gen says

    I agree Lulubelle. Ladyhawke didn’t dress down because it was NZ – she dressed the way she usually does. She wore the same sort of gear to the NME Awards.

    I’ve heard so many people rave about Italy and France. I prefer London as a fashion capital – more eccentric, more out there, more fun. In Italy, slick ricks who looked like they’d cry if their suede loafers got splashed. Lots of gold and leather, men and women alike. In France – south: nouveaux riches. Paris – very understated, chic but not individual – Comptoir des Cotonniers v popular. Bit meh.

    Life in the playground sounds tough Leah! Not knowing what a boutique is! What are they teaching kids these days.

  20. K says

    Who are we to judge how others are dressed? And if someone doesn’t care about fashion (or at least doesn’t prioritise it above other things in their life), why should we care that they don’t? I mean, it doesn’t make them a bad person and if they like to wear trackpants to the supermarket, who cares?

    I do however, agree with the fact that people should make an effort when a dress code has been stated. It’s disrespectful not to. I have been in the french cafe and seen a guy walk in, in ripped jeans, sneakers and a bright red hoodie, and thought that wasn’t right.

  21. Anonymous says

    @ anon 4:12pm

    Why bother with heels if you can’t wear them? There are plenty of great comfy flats/wedges options available here – so no excuse.

  22. says

    re K – the restaurant thing REALLY irks me. Last time I was at Euro there were people there in denim shorts, cros and jandals. I nearly lost it!!!!

  23. Nicole P says

    Leah omg you are an angle! ha you said what I was thinking. I am a teen too and it really kills me to see everyone wearing katmando jackets…everyone has them? they are the most unflatering things ever? i mean they make girls look like the mitchelin man! I go to a private school and i know what you mean they ALL wear the SAME thing! sass and bide, black ribbons, katmando jackets, country road/ juuicy couture track suits omg! it really makes me upset that no one has the courage to wear what they want instead of wearing the same unifrom as everyone else and i totaly agree isaac, leggings are NOT trousers! they are so unflattering on the bum! and that trend i swear came from australia because i was in sydney not to long ago and saw everyone wearing them…i couldnt believe it and now its in nz gassp! I really do want to applaude the young women who will dress how they want to dress no matter how quirky! Isaac you know whats going on, thanks for brining it up! i think it truley needed to be discused!!

  24. Anonymous says

    Pip (Ladyhawke) said that she “feels like a man” when she wears a dress. She doesn’t really like to draw attention to herself I think, so she just wears stuff that’s cool and comfortable. I respect that.

    And Leah, I feel you. Try going to a school in South Waikato… On mufti days I’m told I manage to dress like a grandma and a schoolboy at the same time. If only they knew I take that as a compliment…

  25. Anonymous says

    Men expect women to wear high heels, but really don’t understand the discomfort and inpracticality of wearing them, hence the sneakers and dress. If NZ was a fashion captial eg Milan, London, Paris, the ‘laid back, take it as it comes’ essence of the people wouldn’t be the same, and people would probably be a lot more uptight and snarky than what we are now.

  26. Nicole P says

    I truley dont get why people think heels are un cofortable, i am 15 and i manage to wear them all day long! i guess it aslo depends on the heel weather its padded inside, but i actualy prefer them to flat shoes. I know nz is supposedly laid back, but i dont see any reason why we have to be. I say go for the heels! dress up! wooo 😀

  27. Anonymous says

    I am in no position to generalize the whole of NZ as I live in Auckland and can only make my own judgement against what I see and experience here. I find few Auckland woman ‘stylish’. I would say we are more ‘trendy’ which is unfortunate in my opinion as I do appreciate great style and very rarely see it here. Go down to almost any bar or to high st during the day and you will see what I mean: leggings as pants, terribly put together vintage, doc martens, ill fitting jeans, too much cleavage, slogan tops, hoodies, jandals, terrible grooming, people wearing optical glasses because they are the latest trend but don’t actually need them etc etc. I put it all down to lack of knowledge/education on the history of fashion & style, tailoring, taste, fit, fabrics and lack of quality chain stores – not many people can afford to go out and buy a tailored tuxedo jacket or a really well made beautiful dress for under $200 – and you can’t exactly buy that at Glassons as their garments are of such poor quality with questionable design and fit. Sure, Karen Walker does great dresses, but as a student myself, I cannot afford to shop there very often and in my opinion, the cheaper range that she produces does look cheaper in both quality and design compared to her normal range. Regarding heels – I find that David Elman in Newmarket quite often has great classically stylish heels at fairly affordable prices. For clothing, we definitely need a Zara here (H&M and Topshop are crap quality, Mango is too trendy). Although Zara generally does stock some trend items, they have a lot more range in what I would call stylish pieces, at affordable prices, and cater for both men and women. Their quality is also far superior to any of the chain stores we have here already (i.e. Glassons, Max, Portmans, Farmers etc). Consequently, I have given up on buying clothes in NZ as it is too frustrating for someone in my income range. I usually just save the little spare money I do have and go overseas to get pieces tailor made (Shanghai is great for this) or go to places such as the aforementioned Zara.

  28. Anonymous says

    I find it very interesting that everyone so readily uses European style as a benchmark, I have been working in Milan & Paris for the last 3 months & let me tell you shite fashion & crap style exists in every country & city in the world!!!!

    In Milan the fashion trends for main streamers in high summer was wearing tones of purple through to lavender head to toe, or the last season hit colour lime green also makes a regular appearance. There are heaps of tramp stamps on lardy italian buts hanging out all over town….. I was shocked!!!!

    The Parisians on the other hand are much better dressed, and take note Isaac, that in Paris only tourists wear shorts, even in the hottest summer Parisian men wont show there legs. But as soon as you stop being dazzled by the fact that everyone appears to the most beautiful & well dressed person you have ever seen, the regular folks start to appear in your vision & again Paris has some very dowdy unfashionable residents.

    I am also amused on the theory that Italians are always well dressed & groomed, should this theory in practice also relay back to the huge Italian community in Australia….. who are well known for “not” having the best taste in fashion and a passion for doof doof cars

    Just because “The Sartoralist” shows a small selection of good looking well dressed people (who 99% of the time work in fashion) hanging out in Milan, Paris or New York does not mean that this is how the rest of the nation they are from dresses or looks!!!

    Nz has a very small population (so hence a smaller amount of fashionable dressers), so if you like dressing up, keep it up, if you want to wear jeans to the music awards, cause your comfy, I say wear them.

    Why should we try to keep up with European fashion trends when we are an island nation? perhaps Isaac your maroon suit is to you like a comfy pair of jandals or jeans for the rest of us? and frankly I am sick of seeing & hearing about that old suit, is it getting stinky yet?

    If Isaac you are a true fashionista, you know when its time to move on, and that maroon suit has been worn for the show season, so it should be put to the back of the wardrobe while you move onto your next favourable trend to wear and tell us about.

  29. Anonymous says

    I would dearly love to “dress up” during the day. I love wearing colourful dresses and heels etc. but unfortunately the dress code in Dunedin (and especially in the student zone, where I live) seems to call for black, grungy, baggy clothes such that both sexes look like they’ve raided each other’s wardrobes. If I strutted to Uni in a frock and heels people would probably think I was some sort of fancy foreign guest lecturer. So I have to tone it down and go ultra casual. Its a shame that students think that wearing an androgynous designer sac with ripped leggings looks good.
    I have much love and respect for your maroon suited self, Isaac. I love that you are leading the charge on this one.

  30. Anonymous says

    anon/Sam @ 9:29 How is it a dress code? was there a letter that you received when you paid your fees? this is what’s so stupid about people in NZ we think we can’t wear something because no one else is. We all need to step up and dress how we want to when we want to unless actually asked in the form of a formal invitation as i assume the VNZMA was. Although assuming makes an arse out of you & me. Step up and Dress up NZ.
    p.s Sam wear a colorful dress and heels tomorrow I have a feeling it’ll make you fell amazing.

  31. kim says

    Maybe all the women at the NZMA were having an understated silent rebellion at all the slick produced hitmakers of the USA?

  32. gen says

    Christ on a bike this discussion has turned into every dio girl in town bitching about about the lack of lonely hearts in the tuck shop queue.

    Get me outta here

  33. says

    When I worked in Taupo in the early 90’s I was told by incredulous men that I should ‘wipe that muck off my face’ – it definitely felt to me then that the kiwi male I met through work (on the bungy) liked a casual chick – jeans, T, effortlessly pretty. My style was and remains more 40’s screen siren, toned down for everyday life of course 😉 Upon moving to the UK I was thrilled to meet guys who loved a girl to dress up. I’ve always been jealous of slim, natural looking woman who don’t need to do much to look cool (see French teenagers and compare to my 80’s nightmares!), but I love clothes and shoes, makeup and hair. Now I am a mother and I defer to Moochi. Today I am wearing a sheer belted boyfriend shift in black over a nude slip, with a gorg new pinky nude swing cardigan (God bless Topshop for finally shipping here) and slim legged black soft pants. To stop looking overdone I usually wear cool jandals, no jewellery and fairly natural makeup. I do think that too many people in NZ dress to blend in, but even the tiniest effort lifts my mood, and maybe it comes down to whether you feel you deserve to stand out a bit? E Gads, I might sound like I’m channeling Trinny. PS regarding shoes, I tend to save my spending for Australia.

  34. B says

    wow – someone made a dig at Isaac maroon suit. He knows people, you know, he will probably hunt you down and force you to take that comment back. But about the suit- seriously, Isaac there have been so many Isaac-bots around High st Ak sporting the skinny suit and crazy curly hair. Dare I say you have a devoted fan club!

    Anyway ,about girls… Lets all hope that once out of a institution like university we can have the balls to dress in whatever the fuck we want. Dress in something that suits your body shape and personal style rather than sticking with those darn Supre fad “styles” and maybe we will be getting somewhere.

  35. keporah says

    I have to agree with Isaac, I dont understand for one minute why girls insist on wearing leggings as pants, yes they are comfortable but really, why ruin an outfit, and this whole thing its there style and people can wear what they want to wear, yes fully agree but why not for one night dress nicely? I was appalled at the lack of effort people had put into there outfits, I get that the VNZMAs is not fashion week but that doesn’t excuse you from wearing jeans on stage with no shoes, its unattractive gone are the days when people dressed nicely now we are filled who think the homeless look is in, and why is it when you do make an effort you are given the whole look up and down or there’s the”wow its not a fashion show” and to the blogger who said move away from the maroon suit, Isaac i will slap your hand if you get rid of it, I love it and if i was a man i would wear it.

    fashion is all what you make of it so please people when you next think about wearing tights instead of pants re think, and yes all the chainstores have terrible dresses which makes it hard for a poor person to go out and find something good because i can never afford all the clothes i dream of wear

  36. Anonymous says

    i buy all my gear online, now topshop ships here the world is complete. f*** superette though, you get all the supre dregs aka. remuera zone school girls that die over everything there, and they mark up lover like a bitch, not cool. one store i do love though is made!

  37. Anonymous says

    It’s really a matter of culture, the New Zealand culture despises anyone that openly displays that he/she is better then him/her. In this case its fashion. New Zealand is a very humble culture, even the All Blacks don’t show any sign of arrogance. But it’s a misunderstanding, if only we could change that perspective it would be for the better. We should promote those who tries to be creative instead of looking down on them (Very much like the American culture). And then there’s the thing about our economy, we’re not exactly the richest country in the world. When a country becomes economically healthy like China for example everyone will try to become individuals and then fashion comes along because it’s easiest to differentiate yourself by appearance.

  38. Anonymous says

    China’s the largest growing luxury market in the world. Does that mean the richer the people the better they dress.

  39. Abby says

    Racism. Sexism. Dressism.

    Who’s to say that your opinion or anyone else’s on the high horse matters to anyone else. Just because fashion is your world, and when I say ‘fashion’, I refer to your particular individual take on fashion, it doesn’t mean everyone else is consumed by it. It’s like if Maddonna asked you to sing a song and you were rubbish at it. It’s not your realm.

    If you want to get all jesus walking on water on those who apparently don’t have style, could you imagine what some of the internationals (bar Pammy) who came to ANZFW were saying about the best we had to offer. Changing into a new outfit outside the Air New Zealand lounge every five minutes. What a.. err.. Fashionista…

    At the end of the day, if someone has grown up in Henderson and riding in sweet, lowered, spray-painted rotary’s with a Glassons Winter Collection ’03 polarfleece on is top of their list, so be it. Likewise, if a girl is brought up in Herne Bay and was wearing Karen Walker before she could talk, bloody good on her.

    Don’t they say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Well couldn’t this apply to fashion too.

    -Lover of Hyperboles.

  40. Anonymous says

    BAN VISUAL POLLUTION – leggings (anytime – not just by themselves as pants), jandels (except at the beach), skirts worn over jeans (unless you are under five), ugg boots(anytime and anywhere), flossy tops (you know what I mean), skinny jeans on fat people, fat people generally actually. And ugly people.

  41. Anonymous says

    I totally agree with Anon 8:19, with the exception of keeping fat & ugly people (that is just mean)

    This clone look of leggins & Ugg’s is not just localized to NZ it is a global mainstream phenomenon, everyone is wearing it, its viral.

    I believe the worst though is, boots worn over Jeans…. Girls get original.

    Hey can any one give the heads up on To Sir with Love? no longer on Murrays 22’s website, they still going? I love there cashmere.

  42. Anonymous says

    Isaac!!! YOU practically wear the same thing EVERY day, in fact the maroon suit is well and truely dead isnt it? If we are all supposed to play by international celeb standards you should have ditched it well after the first wear, or at least the second. Disappointing really, especially from a fashion commentator. ;)C’mon, push some boundaries Isaac, every over 60 and his dog are cruising the rest homes in sweaters and beige pants.

  43. Anonymous says

    Yip the maroon suit is OVER!!!

    You should not of given it so much attention…. if a girl was to wear the same party dress as many times she would be shunned from fashionable society.

    Play by the fashion rules & give it up.

    R.I.P Maroon Suit

  44. Nicole P says

    leave isaac alone! i love his style! he always looks incredbly cute. I love the maroon suit! keep wearing it!!! not to mention the awsum bow ties! :)

  45. says

    As I said over on the male dressing debate post – I don’t think it’s a lack of stuff to buy, or a lack of good quality – look at brands like Moochi, Ruby, Country Road – all of whom do good stuff at reasonable prices. NZ’ers just find it a bit more difficult to drop serious coin on something that is going to be wearable for years to come, we’re into our quick fix of whatever looks good in the shop mirrors. Fashion’s become disposable as many people have already said, but I also think that most shoppers aren’t selective enough in what they purchase – they don’t weigh up how much wear they’ll get out of a piece that they purchase, whether it be House of G or Karen Walker.

  46. Anonymous says

    Anon @ 8:19 who said……….ban…” flossy tops (you know what I mean)…”

    Yeah, i know what you mean!

    Alexander Wang just showed some gorgeous ones for his SS10 Show in NY and i thought that they were pretty cute!

  47. Anonymous says

    Gosh isn’t it obvious? The reason everyone dresses down at these events is to show that they don’t really CARE enough about the awards (in the event they don’t win). Noone wants to be the only person in a gown.. that would look ridiculous in comparison.

    It is just pretension really, ‘artificial diffidence’.. awards ceremonies are so PASSE… but everyone attends anyway.. in case they win something 😉

  48. Anonymous says

    “As managing director of NZ Fashion Week Limited, Pieter Stewart in less than two years has turned an idea into an acclaimed showcase for New Zealand designers. At the same time she has generated enormous international recognition and significant revenue for one of the country’s fastest growing industries.”

    This is from Stewart’s bio, no wonder people are disappointed they have not generated sales/brand recognition from FW. Maybe because of the recession, the people formerly involved with FW are tired of the hyperbole!

  49. Jessica Ruby Graham says

    i actually really liked the pants brook fraser wore and i want some !!! but yeah in new zealand most people don’t really care about what they wear . but that’s okay cause that just makes my clothes look cooler :-)


  50. Amy says

    I love this debate. Something I think about all the time. The things I can find in New Zealand is not enough for me! Maybe I am too particular and have a personality that’s not common enough.

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